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Vanguard1965 wrote:Over all pretty good but I think you should try and get most of your protein from food.

I would take whey after your workout along with creatine and L-glutamine. Creatine in the moring on non workout days if your spiking it with fast absorbing carbs like dextrose.

At bed time I recommend using caisen protein or cottage cheese instead of whey as its a slower digesting protein then whey so it insures your getting amino acid uptake for a longer period of time while your sleeping which is what you want. Also take 5g of L-Glutamine

You should aim for a 1g of protein per pound of body weight for the day.

Creatine ethyl ester did not show any additional benefit to increase muscle strength or performance than creatine monohydrate or maltodextose placebo. Additionally, total body mass, fat mass, fat-free mass, and thigh muscle mass were not significantly enhanced with creatine ethyl ester supplementation compared to placebo or creatine monohydrate groups. Increases in body water were similar to the placebo and creatine monohydrate groups. The vast majority of the improvement observed in the present study can most likely be attributed to the training protocol itself, rather than the supplementation. Since creatine ethyl ester supplementation showed a large increase in serum creatinine levels throughout the study with no significant increase in serum and total muscle creatine content, it can be concluded that a large portion of the creatine ethyl ester was being degraded within the GI tract after ingestion. Furthermore, it appears that the skeletal muscle uptake of creatine ethyl ester uptake was not significant enough to increase skeletal muscle creatine levels without significant degradation to creatinine occurring.

Vanguard1965 wrote:Can't really comment on CNP pro creatine E2 as I have never used it. From what I have read creatine monohydrate is the cheapest and most researched form of creatine and it definately works and that's what I use.

I did find this study which came to the following conclusion regarding creatine ethyl ester. http://www.jissn.com/content/6/1/6

Creatine ethyl ester did not show any additional benefit to increase muscle strength or performance than creatine monohydrate or maltodextose placebo. Additionally, total body mass, fat mass, fat-free mass, and thigh muscle mass were not significantly enhanced with creatine ethyl ester supplementation compared to placebo or creatine monohydrate groups. Increases in body water were similar to the placebo and creatine monohydrate groups. The vast majority of the improvement observed in the present study can most likely be attributed to the training protocol itself, rather than the supplementation. Since creatine ethyl ester supplementation showed a large increase in serum creatinine levels throughout the study with no significant increase in serum and total muscle creatine content, it can be concluded that a large portion of the creatine ethyl ester was being degraded within the GI tract after ingestion. Furthermore, it appears that the skeletal muscle uptake of creatine ethyl ester uptake was not significant enough to increase skeletal muscle creatine levels without significant degradation to creatinine occurring.

Based on that I would stick with creatine monohydrate

mistertee wrote:is it good to take branched-chain aminos at bedtime?because thats what i do and i seem to be responding.i want to combinate vanedel sulfate with creatine after workout that is immediately followed with 1000mg of branched chains.