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Re: animal protein and calcium

Postby redgiki on Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:35 pm

undertaker610 wrote:Wow, we have almost identical digestive tracks with a dog!


Man and dogs have been companions for well over 10,000 years, and probably competitors for much, much longer.

My friend, a vet, emphasizes that "dogs and people should eat the same stuff" She's pretty big on humans avoiding crap-foods -- sugar, starch, nutritionally vacant foods, and the like -- and big on meats and veggies. I think it's interesting, though, that garlic, onions, chocolate, raisins, grapes, xylitol, and a few other foods that humans can eat are totally toxic to dogs. Could they also be toxic to people, but we've just built up a resistance to it? But anyway, your average family dog will do well on the same diet as you, as long as you eat low-carb and cook your vegetables thoroughly :)

I think it's interesting dogs are classed as carnivores, but eat the digestive tracts of their prey and will eat fruits to excess if given the opportunity. Could it be there's no such thing as a "true" carnivore?

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Re: animal protein and calcium

Postby goatacon on Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:46 pm

A carnivore (IPA: /ˈkɑrnɪvɔər/), meaning 'meat eater' (Latin carne meaning 'flesh' and vorare meaning 'to devour'), is any animal with a diet consisting mainly of meat, whether it comes from animals living (predation) or dead (scavenging).

In a more general sense, an animal may be considered a carnivore if it prefers feeding on animal matter over plant matter. Animals that must eat meat in order to thrive are referred to as obligate carnivores, whereas animals that exclusively feed on animal tissue are known as hypercarnivores. An apex predator is a carnivore that sits at the top of the foodchain.

Plants that capture and digest insects are called carnivorous plants. Similarly fungi that capture microscopic animals are often called carnivorous fungi.


I guess you can't say there is or is not a TRUE carnivore since their doesn't seem to be a TRUE definition. Pretty loose term covering some gray areas. Fairly broad.
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Re: animal protein and calcium

Postby undertaker610 on Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:51 am

A hypercarnivore is an animal that exclusively eats meat.Some examples include dolphins, eagles, snakes, marlin, most sharks, and such invertebrates as octopuses. Additionally, this term is also used in paleobiology to describe taxa of animals which have an increased slicing component of their dentition relative to the grinding component.

Hypercarnivores need not be superpredators. Salmon are exclusively carnivorous, yet they are prey at all stages of life for a variety of organisms


My friend, a vet, emphasizes that "dogs and people should eat the same stuff" She's pretty big on humans avoiding crap-foods -- sugar, starch, nutritionally vacant foods, and the like -- and big on meats and veggies. I think it's interesting, though, that garlic, onions, chocolate, raisins, grapes, xylitol, and a few other foods that humans can eat are totally toxic to dogs. Could they also be toxic to people, but we've just built up a resistance to it? But anyway, your average family dog will do well on the same diet as you, as long as you eat low-carb and cook your vegetables thoroughly :)


I think much more things that we eat are toxic, and maybe they are not the same for everyone. From a whole food category to a single type of food. I have a book by Rudy Rivera M.D and Roger D.Deutsch called ''The hidden nutritional allergies that make you fat'' (tsanselated from Greek) and talks about how certain types of food can cause allergic reaction and make overeat them including the starch and generally the carbs that many many people have a very bad reaction/addiction on them. There is something called ALCAT Test which can detect those foods. In the test the scientist basically 'sees' how your blood reacts on each specific food, in general.
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