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Hi All,

Quick question if I may, I have been following the MANS diet and now getting to grip with it.

The think I have noticed on my fitday page is the calories I am consuming are crazy - should I be concerned ? Is there such a thing as too many calories on this diet ?

Thanks.

omaragha wrote:the calories I am consuming are crazy - should I be concerned ?

What exactly are you considering crazy...

BigBeck89 wrote:

omaragha wrote:the calories I am consuming are crazy - should I be concerned ?

What exactly are you considering crazy...

4500 Calories +++ ?

???

that does seem a bit high. lemme ask you though, is this your first experience with low carbing, and how active are you..your job,workout, hobbies, etc.

the reason I ask is because if you are not adapted to burning fat as your primary fuel yet, well you might be eating to make up for all the fat being lost and not used for fuel, and eventually you will start eating less.

Im also wondering what a 4500+ day looks like...It just might be you need to cut out things like nut and cheeses(easily overeaten) and eat more things like meat and veggies. Youre gunna find it hard to eat 4500+ cal of spinach and chuck steak.

BigBeck89 wrote:Youre gunna find it hard to eat 4500+ cal of spinach and chuck steak.

Spinach FTW!!!
I had a few days when I started the TSPA diet and was re-adapting from low-GI back to low-carb when I ate a lot of nuts and fat and I let myself do it because I felt so cruddy. However, we're talking ~2700 calories a day for 2-3 days, not ongoing days of 4500+!

4500kcal are maintance for an 'average' 300lbs man on daily basis. Maybe Coleman is interested in this but not the rest of us,I guess

Go by your results, not the calories. It's very possible to lose fat on an obscenely high amount of calories on low-carb, depending on how long you've been low-carbing, how out-of-whack your metabolism is, how fat you are right now, etc. I know friends that ate 5000+ calories a day on low-carb (they were morbidly obese) and easily lost forty to fifty pounds their first few months in.

Obesity is a disorder of excess fat accumulation, NOT a disorder of excess eating. The excess eating is a symptom: most people overeat because their body is getting fatter, not the other way around. Wrap your head around that, and proper nutrition starts to make a LOT more sense. If you figure out what you're eating that's causing your lean cells to starve while your fat cells swallow all the glucose in your bloodstream, you're ahead of the game and can restore balance again.

Hint for people not up to speed on how this works: your fat cells work best when they are taking in and putting out around the same amount of energy per day. If your fat cells take in more than they give up, you gain fat... and you can do this while your body is actually starving itself.

The game changes when you approach a normal body fat percentage. The closer you are to a "healthy weight" -- somewhere around 13%-19% body fat for males, 24%-33% for females -- the more your overall calorie intake begins to factor into the picture.

Basically, I'm saying that if you're a healthy body fat, calories count. Eat the right things and count your calories. If you're obese, ignore the calories and cut out the foods that are causing your disorder: namely, high-glycemic carbohydrates and foods with lots of fructose (mostly foods containing sugar and/or HFCS). You'll reach a healthy body fat percentage with that simple step, and then can begin focusing on calories to achieve your aims.

I was eating 5,000+ calories per day when I was over 250 lbs, and lost 10 pounds my first month doing so (and continued losing steadily for quite a while). I didn't start even worrying about calories until I was below 30% body fat.

--Matt B.

Thanks for all the replies,

My weight is 200Lbs, my lean mass is approximately 150lbs so I have 25% body fat. My height is 5Ft 10in.

I am following the training schedule in Total Anabolism 2.0 to the letter. As said I have just gone onto the MANS diet and have been keeping my carb intake around 35grs. However the fat and protein intake is high which is the desired result - right ? That being said the calorie count is high due to the red meat / cheese / cream I am eating.

My training schedule as said is 4 days on the THT workout, 1 day of CV, I also play football(sorry soccer) once a week and squash sometimes twice a week. My job is primarily office based so i am on my arse most of the day.

This is my first serious go at low carbing, I have tried the atkins before but ended putting on weight but i think that was due to my lack of focus.

With the above variables of my training, diet and daily activity what should my calorie intake look like in your opinions, I just need a guideline to follow because my intake is being tracked on fitday until I find the correct balance with everything.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Omar.

4000+ calories of meat n cheese!

after eating a whole 8oz block of cheese(about 900 calories) I would be sick and wouldn't be able to eat anything until the next day.

Stick with it and you'll eat what you need, eventually the urge to eat so much will probably subside.

ALSO make sure your getting enough water!! thirst is easily mistaken for hunger. also it will fill you way up, maybe your just not drinking enough water throughout the day, especially closer to your meals, making you easily able to eat more.