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Hello,

Firstly I'm new to musclehack and do plan to follow the tht training program and the m.a.n.s diet.

I wanted to make this post as I seen this on tv yesterday morning linking red meat to type 2 diabetes. As far as I know the m.a.n.s diet is based quite heavy on red meat.

Please click on the below link
http://m.nursingtimes.net/5033629.article

I am in no way an expert in diabetes and food which is way I've made this post to see feedback against information.

Stephen

stefanavic wrote:Hello,

Firstly I'm new to musclehack and do plan to follow the tht training program and the m.a.n.s diet.

I wanted to make this post as I seen this on tv yesterday morning linking red meat to type 2 diabetes. As far as I know the m.a.n.s diet is based quite heavy on red meat.

Please click on the below link
http://m.nursingtimes.net/5033629.article

I am in no way an expert in diabetes and food which is way I've made this post to see feedback against information.

Stephen

Let me draw your eyes to five words for starters: "especially when it was processed."

Additonally, the study indicates there may be an association, not a causal relationship. These are two radically different things. There is no suggestion that the study controlled for other variables (heredity, other dietary impacts, lifestyle, etc.). The authors also suggest swapping out red meat for whole grains - and consumption of whole grains in and of itself is associated with a decreased incidence of type 2 diabetes.

Further, long-term low-carb diets - like Atkins - are proven to cause insulin hypersensitivity, not resistance like Type 2 Diabetes (though this is not a concern with ketogenic diets, since you get a carb spike, and thus insulin exposure, which thwarts that mechanism). This study is unfortunately a lot of anti-red-meat hand-waving that oversimplifies the picture. The simple truth is we don't know enough about metabolic syndrome or syndrome x to be able to hold up any one single item and declare it causative. There are sets of factors we can lay the blame on - like obesity and a sedentary life style are excellent markers for both conditions (and a litany of others). And frankly, if 4oz of red meat a day could cause diabetes, I'd be diabetic by now, and my labs are perfect.

TL;DR - Hasty conclusion is hasty.