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Have one cheat meal for each day of your load. What you can do is buy one of those large bags of M&M's and use that as your cheat meal and spread between both days.

Haha, last summer when I started on a lowish-carb diet (like GLAD) I used to eat one of those 2lb bags of peanut m&m's on my loading day. Great stuff unless you want a 6-pack.

GT_907 wrote:If I were to start off the day ( carb up day) with a large serving of chili - would all that fiber lower the insulin response of other foods eater during the day after wards? say, something like noodles later on in the day? I did this on my first official carb up day a few months ago and it worked out great. I ate a ton of carbs without experiancing the usual highs and lows I usually get, not until I started going higher on the GI level did I get into trouble..

By chili, I expect you mean some sort of meat and bean concoction? Because in Texas, chili has no beans and therefore would have scant fiber content. There is a supposed "second meal effect". However, depending on who you read, it is interpreted in diametrically opposed ways. I know that Philip Lipetz in The Good Calorie Diet warns against eating again until 6 hours after a high-GI meal, because your body will treat any new incoming calories as if they were "bad calories" even if they're low-GI. OTOH, there are studies showing that the studied women who ate low-GI dinners were better able to tolerate a high-GI breakfast. The one I read (http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v62/ ... 2759a.html) said they didn't believe it was justified to generalize those results to men, so as always, YMMV.

chili as in red kidney beans and some ground beef... it's 'canned' though but I rinse out half of the can in cold water and boiled it together while adding a little bit of water. It's something like 130 grams of carbs, 16 grams of fiber, 65 grams of proteins, about 1100 calories. I used to bulk up on this stuff for awhile back in the days, two servings of this stuff, a serving of weight gainer in the morning and evening and I'd get buffed out in a few weeks only.

Can someone tell me why to avoid wheat on carb ups?

WHO AM I wrote:Can someone tell me why to avoid wheat on carb ups?

Plenty of people have a wheat intolerance and don't know it because they ate the standard American diet their whole lives and don't know any better. I don't mind omitting it for a while so I can see if I can eat oats and quinoa during my carb-ups. I think I'm more likely to start wanting more and more carbs if I go for the standard American carb sources like bread. It's more a convenience thing for me. I don't have to worry that it'll cause me a problem if I just avoid it.

marochka_raduga wrote:

WHO AM I wrote:Can someone tell me why to avoid wheat on carb ups?

Plenty of people have a wheat intolerance and don't know it because they ate the standard American diet their whole lives and don't know any better. I don't mind omitting it for a while so I can see if I can eat oats and quinoa during my carb-ups. I think I'm more likely to start wanting more and more carbs if I go for the standard American carb sources like bread. It's more a convenience thing for me. I don't have to worry that it'll cause me a problem if I just avoid it.

Oki doki so for someone like myself who as far as I know doesn't have a wheat intolerance there should be no probs with oats and such on carb ups? I have never had any negative reaction from wheat before and my last carb was filled with oats and wheat so i presume I'm ok.

Cheers

If carbing up on wheat doesn't give you the shits, by all means go for it I still recommend low-GI carbs if possible, since they cause a longer-lasting, slower insulin response, but there appear to be two schools of thought in the bodybuilding community on this. One says it doesn't matter, eat sugar, have milk, have white bread, and enjoy the anabolic benefits. The other advocates brown rice, fruits, and whole grains instead.

Both, as far as I know, work fine. For me, if I eat wheat and milk I get diarrhea. So that's off my list Funny to me, though, it wasn't until this round of low-carbing that I finally figured out my GI tract doesn't handle wheat well.

--Matt B.

redgiki wrote:If carbing up on wheat doesn't give you the shits, by all means go for it I still recommend low-GI carbs if possible, since they cause a longer-lasting, slower insulin response, but there appear to be two schools of thought in the bodybuilding community on this. One says it doesn't matter, eat sugar, have milk, have white bread, and enjoy the anabolic benefits. The other advocates brown rice, fruits, and whole grains instead.

Both, as far as I know, work fine. For me, if I eat wheat and milk I get diarrhea. So that's off my list Funny to me, though, it wasn't until this round of low-carbing that I finally figured out my GI tract doesn't handle wheat well.

--Matt B.

My carb ups can get dirty sometimes but the majority of them contain wheat and when I say wheat I mean plain 100% whole wheat, shredded wheat, oats and bagels are my choices, when I go for sugar filled delights I dont feel as healthy and fruits dont always agree with me, if anything I get more of an upset stomach on fruits..

One thing on carb ups, if I take in 160g protein low carb and I stick to that on carb up, I find it easy to get the protein becuase in 100g oats theres about 15g but does it matter as to how high quality it is on carb up. I dont need to add extra just because my protein sources dont have as high Biological Value as they normally do or do I?

triple wrote:

Have one cheat meal for each day of your load. What you can do is buy one of those large bags of M&M's and use that as your cheat meal and spread between both days.

Haha, last summer when I started on a lowish-carb diet (like GLAD) I used to eat one of those 2lb bags of peanut m&m's on my loading day. Great stuff unless you want a 6-pack.

You ate a whole bag in one day. Of course I can see that being trouble. Then again our bodies are all different.