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What are your fiber sources?

Postby vrsandersjr on Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:17 am

I have trouble getting enough fiber on a regular basis. I eat broccoli and spinach pretty regularly but only get around 10 grams (15-20 on a good day). I'll have a Mission low carb torilla every once in a while and those have 21 grams. Looks like I need to have a ton more broccoli and spinach.

How do you all get your fiber in?
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Re: What are your fiber sources?

Postby marochka_raduga on Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:05 am

Well, I think Smaps low carb cereal has a pretty good amount and I eat that sometimes.
I picked a day at random and these were my fiber sources that day, for a total of 31 grams:

  • 4 oz. of spinach and 1 oz. of avocado in a smoothie (but you could do this in an omelet just as well)
  • 1/2 c. cucumber slices
  • 4 oz. of spinach and 4 oz. of bean sprouts stir fried in 1/4 c. alfredo sauce
  • 1 c. soy milk
  • couple T. of soy nut butter
  • muffin made with 1/2 c. pumpkin puree and 3.5 T. flax meal
That day was typical enough. It came out to 26 net carbs (not including whatever hidden carbs were in my diet soda, etc.) Hope this helps!
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Re: What are your fiber sources?

Postby redgiki on Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:34 am

Great fiber foods:

Celery
Cold-milled flaxseed (very fatty, too)
Edamame (a particularly succulent variety of soybean. I like frozen, reheated, in pod, with salt.)
Avocado, whole, raw

I've noticed I only need fiber if I'm eating carbs, though. The fiber myth I've debunked here before... if you need me to provide another link I can do it but not from my phone like this post...

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Re: What are your fiber sources?

Postby vrsandersjr on Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:31 pm

redgiki wrote:I've noticed I only need fiber if I'm eating carbs, though. The fiber myth I've debunked here before... if you need me to provide another link I can do it but not from my phone like this post...

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If you don't mind providing a link, I would appreciate it. I think I'm still pretty sensitive to carbs and want to try to see if adding more fiber can help.
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Re: What are your fiber sources?

Postby redgiki on Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:17 pm

I've posted it before, and I've archived it permanently on my web site, but I'll repost about fiber's dubious benefits again. Every single nutritional "benefit" of fiber is duplicated on a low-carb diet with or without fiber...

There is one other dietary fallacy that I want to address: fiber. The only benefit of fiber for a low-carber* is the slowdown of the absorption of carbohydrates in the bowel and relief from constipation. There's no benefit to colon cancer or overall health other than steadying blood insulin... which low-carb does better. Here are the so-called benefits of a high-fiber diet:
* Reduction of heart disease. Fiber slows the absorption of carbohydrates, which steadies blood sugar. Low-carb reduces carbohydrate entirely, which also steadies blood sugar.
* Reduction of cancer rates. Shown false this year in a Harvard study once you eliminate the variable of obese people. Obesity increases cancer risk, and obese people tend to eat less fiber. Low-carbing reduces obesity in far superior numbers to eating more fiber (viz: "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes stresses this topic).
* Reduction of diabetes. Once again, this is because fiber slows down sugar absorption rates... a redundant function for a low-carber!
* Reduction of diverticulitis. A high-fat, low-fiber diet is among the healthiest treatments for diverticulitis or Crohn's disease (see: Lutz, "Life Without Bread").
* Reduction of gallstones & kidney stones. These are both responses to the release of large amounts of glucose into the bloodstream, which low-carb controls. Consumption of large quantities of water -- also advocated by virtually all low-carb eating plans -- dramatically reduces both types of stones.

So for the low-carber, fiber is redundant and unnecessary unless you get stopped up. Period. Every benefit of fiber is reproduced by a low-carb, high-fat diet, and there is no further health benefit for a low-carber other than fixing irregularity. For many of us -- self included -- eating low-carb stabilizes stools with or without meeting the US RDA for fiber.

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Matt B.

* Note: Thank you, Marochka Raduga, for pointing out that fiber also increases satiety with meals, and for those who have trouble maintaining satiety on low-carb fiber may help them feel fuller longer.
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Re: What are your fiber sources?

Postby vrsandersjr on Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:38 pm

So, there is no reason to attempt get 25-35 grams of fiber per day? I think I've seen this recommended even for low carbers. I'm sure it doesn't hurt but it sounds like I shouldn't be concerned about only getting 10-15.
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Re: What are your fiber sources?

Postby redgiki on Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:10 pm

vrsandersjr wrote:So, there is no reason to attempt get 25-35 grams of fiber per day?


If you're constipated and eating low-carb, eat some fiber.
If you're not constipated and eating low-carb, don't sweat the fiber.
If you're high-carbing on the weekend or whatever, make sure you get at least the RDA of fiber.

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