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Postby cschamberger on Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:32 pm

What is the best way to boost your testosterone levels? Does ZMA really work to boost Testosterone?
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Re: Testosterone Levels

Postby lv2snwbrd on Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:26 pm

I read somewhere that zinc is supposed to help, which is why I take it. Then I have also been told that I should switch to ZMA. However, I haven't seen any concrete studies on it yet. This could be due to the fact that I haven't really looked into it much. :lol: This is a good question, I am interested in the responses that may follow, and I am sure that many others would be interested as well.
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Re: Testosterone Levels

Postby cschamberger on Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:06 pm

Thanks for the reply! I am currently getting zinc in my multi vitamin (Anavite) which is 30mg per day. Not sure if that would be considered enough or not. How many mg of Zinc are you taking?
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Re: Testosterone Levels

Postby JoH on Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:03 am

I love when things pop up that are near and dear to my heart...

First, if you suspect low testosterone levels, see your doctor. It's a real quick easy blood test to check, and clinical low testosterone is very easily treated. Symptoms include chronic fatigue, loss of strength, depression, fat accumulation especially around the waist, and low libido. If you are actually deficient, your doctor will either give you regular injections or a script for Androgel or Testim - a Purell-like goop containing testosterone that absorbs through the skin.

If you're just looking to maximize natural production, you do have some avenues available.

1. SLEEP

Insufficient sleep screws up your body's hormones in more ways than I care to think about. Insulin, GH, testosterone, adrenaline, cortisol... everything goes bonkers when you're sleep deprived.

2. DIET

EAT FOOD. You probably know this one already, you need to get the bulk of your nutrition from whole foods, or the body doesn't process them correctly and metabolic process start shutting down. Also worth mentioning, cholesterol is the mother of all hormones. Your body can't produce any of them without it. If you're eating a very low fat diet, stop that at once. Get your good fats, get your cholesterol.

3. WORK OUT

Physical activity can - and does - raise testosterone. In men, this hormone plays a huge role in muscle development, and your body will release it in response to the stresses you subject it to in order to successfully build muscle.

4. LIMIT PHYTOESTROGENS

Have I given my anti-soy tirade lately? If not, let me go ahead and do so now. Phytoestrogens are essentially compounds that aren't really estrogen, but they produce the same physiological response. BPA gets a lot of press on this one - so if you have an ancient water bottle, think about ditching it for a BPA-free one. Also avoid acidic canned goods, like tomatoes. Generally, cans are not a big issue, but acidic foods will eat the BPA off the liner and it ends up in the food. The king of phytoestrogen, however, and no one seems to want to talk about this, is processed soy. Human beings are not designed to consume processed soy. Generally, one or two servings is no big deal, but eating it in any large quantity is unwise. Male or female, excess exogenous estrogen is bad. Terribad. Like cancer-causing bad, nevermind low testosterone (and yes, it does that, too). If you are consuming lots of processed soy, knock it off. If you don't know if you're consuming lots of processed soy, start reading labels, and actively eliminate it the same way you would eradicate HFCS. Yes, I know there are studies that say the soy-phytoestrogen study is overblown, but I have seen exactly zero of such studies that weren't funded by companies and organizations that have a vested interest in selling soy products. It's a phytoestrogen. We know what phytoestrogens do in the body. Therefore, we know that regardless of what soy peddlers tell us, we should probably not be eating it by the truckload. When I see unbiased empirical research proving otherwise, I'll believe it.

5. GET LAID

Seriously. About once a week. This is a well-studied and little-known piece of information that testosterone levels plummet if a guy doesn't "release" for over a week.

6. SUPPLEMENT WITH ZMA

Yes, Zinc alone works, but Magnesium and B6 aid with absorption, and ZMA (zinc monomethionine aspartate) is more bioavailable than plain old zinc. This is clinically proven to increase testosterone in athletes, as well as help you sleep better. It's best taken on an empty stomach close to bed time. You want asparate forms, not chelated forms. A good supplement should contain 11 mg of Vitamin B-6, 30 mg of the zinc monomethionine aspartate, and 450 mg of the magnesium aspartate per serving. Do not take it with calcium, and do not buy one that contains calcium, as calcium will block absorption. (@lv2snwbrd if you want studies, I can probably dig some up for you, it'll just take me a little time cuz I'm retarded busy lately :) )

7. AVOID BOOZE

Booze lowers testosterone production, and in excess, increases estrogen production. A beer or two? No big deal. One night with a serious buzz? Whatever. Regular intoxication? Bad idea.

Theres a litany of other things to avoid, because they simply don't work. Tribulus terrestris is a great supplement - for manufacturer's wallets, and nothing else. It's been proven worthless in several studies (and Mark has slammed it too). DHEA also falls under doesn't really work. 50mg a day can be marginally helpful, but beyond that your body will actually convert it into estradiol, not testosterone (and enough estradiol means you, too, can experience the joys of PMS).

Last but not least, you can always get Mark's opinion on the matter.

TL;DR - Sleep, diet, don't drink to excess, get your fats, take ZMA on an empty stomach at bed time, and don't buy garbage products that make incredulous claims. The same basic advice we give for most everything. Oh, and have more sex (which I'm sure you'll just resent having to do so much... :lol: )
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Re: Testosterone Levels

Postby lv2snwbrd on Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:49 pm

cschamberger the zinc that I take contains 50mg of zinc. I also get 100%DV of zinc from my multivitimin which is about 15mg (i think). I have been taking it in the morning and with calcium, so I will change that starting tomorrow. I would make the change today, but I have already had my morning vitimins. JoH, thanks for the offer on the studies, but I can just take your word for it.
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Re: Testosterone Levels

Postby cschamberger on Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:21 pm

JoH, thank you for the extensive response! I am going to purchase the ZMA and see if it has any impact. No need to share the studies, I am going to take your word for it.
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Re: Testosterone Levels

Postby Rsanviral on Sat May 07, 2011 6:11 am

Anyone that can provide sound medical reasoning as to why men should have more sex is a friend in my book. Here is an E-beer and a toast to you!

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Re: Testosterone Levels

Postby JonnyK92x on Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:36 am

i actually just read an article on a study they did with zma. basically it only helps if you have a deficiency. Here it is.
http://www.ergo-log.com/zma.html
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Re: Testosterone Levels

Postby clymerj on Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:19 pm

JoH wrote about;
"LIMIT PHYTOESTROGENS"

I know from many, many past posts that JoH knows what he is talking about.. I just realized after reading this post, that he is going to kill my diet!!! I LOVE Kraft Mayo and basically put Kraft mayo on EVERYTHING I eat. Chicken, salmon, steak, cheese, beef jerky, mixed in veggies, etc.. etc.. I love th taste, plus it adds fat and no carbs to my diet. I just read the label (not sure hy this never crossed my mind, as I assumed mayo was made from eggs??) and the number one item is soybean oil. I love my diet plan, LOTS of protein and fat, but removing Kraft Mayo is going to kill me.. Anyone have suggestions on a replacement.. For some reason I am extremely picky on the taste of mayo and coffee, and need specific brand names.
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Re: Testosterone Levels

Postby dsharp on Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:11 pm

clymerj wrote:JoH wrote about;
"LIMIT PHYTOESTROGENS"

I know from many, many past posts that JoH knows what he is talking about.. I just realized after reading this post, that he is going to kill my diet!!! I LOVE Kraft Mayo and basically put Kraft mayo on EVERYTHING I eat. Chicken, salmon, steak, cheese, beef jerky, mixed in veggies, etc.. etc.. I love th taste, plus it adds fat and no carbs to my diet. I just read the label (not sure hy this never crossed my mind, as I assumed mayo was made from eggs??) and the number one item is soybean oil. I love my diet plan, LOTS of protein and fat, but removing Kraft Mayo is going to kill me.. Anyone have suggestions on a replacement.. For some reason I am extremely picky on the taste of mayo and coffee, and need specific brand names.

Relax! Soybean oil is another name for vegetable oil. The amount of soy present isn't going to have the phytoestrogens that some people say may affect testosterone levels. I should add that I respectfully disagree with the phytoestrogen fear as many independent scientific studies (not soy industry funded) have stated their safety and non-destruction of testosterone. If you want to be supremely careful, then don't eat a big serving of tofu or drink soymilk as your regular milk, but the little bit in your mayo or a sprinkle of soy sauce is just too minuscule to think about.
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