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I am 18 years old,i liftingfor 4 years up till now.....i have been taken 4.lbs from golden standard of whey protein and isn't gain me any thing and also took 400 tab from amino acid 2222 and isn't gain me thing and finally and i take 12.lbs of serios mass with anabol and creatine monohaydrat and it's gain me about 7.lbs only,i don't know why everybody take this things and become huge and i am not,
i want anybody to help me and tell me what should i take and how about animal pak and animal stak if it start to take them....

You're right. You can't gain muscle just by taking supplements.

You are only 18. I don't think your hormones are done going through all the changes they will go through. That may hold you back some.

What is your lean body mass? (Total body mass - fat mass)

How many calories per day do you eat? (include supplements)

Diet and supplements alone won't get the job done. You have to give your body a reason to adapt and grow more muscle. What workout are you doing?

zemo12-8 wrote:I am 18 years old,i liftingfor 4 years up till now.....i have been taken 4.lbs from golden standard of whey protein and isn't gain me any thing and also took 400 tab from amino acid 2222 and isn't gain me thing and finally and i take 12.lbs of serios mass with anabol and creatine monohaydrat and it's gain me about 7.lbs only,i don't know why everybody take this things and become huge and i am not,
i want anybody to help me and tell me what should i take and how about animal pak and animal stak if it start to take them....

Zemo,

How much do you weigh and what is a typical days' meal plan for you, including all the supplements your taking? If you type all that out, I can probably tell you with reasonable accuracy what the problem(s) are.

dude are you sure your not doing something wrong with your training? overdoing it perhaps?

Animal packs are just over-priced vitamins as far as I'm concerned. There's no magic supplement out there that will give you results. Just get plenty of protein (1 gram per lb of weight) and find a good routine built around compound movements. I think you'll find success if you keep working at it.

I like the way Skip La Cour described it in his radio podcast the other day. I'm paraphrasing here.

Picture your body composition as two separate departments: fat storage and muscle mass. If you want to lose fat, you have to make the case for your body to be willing to give up its fat stores. The best way to do that is through consistent, regular feedings that meet the body's metabolic needs without activating fat reserves to any great extent. If you take a long time between meals -- by, for instance, eating only one large meal per day -- your body will be encouraged to store fat immediately after the meal, predicting that it will have to live off those fat stores for the next twenty hours or so. Conversely, if you eat smaller, more frequent meals, your fat reserves won't be mobilized to store fat, thus won't tend to hang on to those stores in case you starve.

Similarly, to gain muscle mass, you need to submit the request and provide ongoing supplies for your muscles to follow suit. You submit the request through the diligence of your training. By being consistent in your regimen and adding weight week after week while providing the essential raw materials (fat and protein) for your muscles to use as building blocks, you'll increase your muscle size and density.

It's not rocket science. It's dietary and training discipline, pure and simple. You can't out-train poor nutrition, and you can't out-nutrition poor training.

--Matt B.

People don't get huge from taking supplements. They get huge from training, genetics, diet, and sometimes steroids.

You need to evaluate your overall training and diet. Supplements simply help make up for gaps in nutrition--a supplement will not make you "huge."

You also need to be patient. I developed more of my strength when I was in my 20's. You are still young--just keep training and be patient.

Eat all you can (every 2-4 hours) and focus on compound (heavy) movements.
At 18 I was bigger and stronger than I am now, using this philosophy.

redgiki wrote:Conversely, if you eat smaller, more frequent meals, your fat reserves won't be mobilized to store fat, thus won't tend to hang on to those stores in case you starve.

Hey Matt, one interesting "reverse psychology on this is, "What if you just grazed all day long, eating bits of apple and nuts, and celery and little cubes of cheese or meat." Would this not be even BETTER than just splitting it across 6 meals?

Train Hard, rest, eat. If you ectomorphic I would add one gallon of whole milk to your food intake a day and cut out all the supplements. If you are not fat know then fat is not a problem for someone like that a gallon of milk a day with intense hard workouts with enough time to rest is going to do all your body can do. In time as you get closer to your genetic limit then metabolic diet and supplements with their concentrated nutrient profiles become super important. Like wise if you fat or if you gain fat easily then again supplements can be a great help to allow you keep calories/carbs low and protein high but for most young men this is not an issue! In fact if youw ant to spend money on supplements spend it on mineral,creatine,systemic enzymes and take a girl out once a week instead of blowing all your dough on protein powder and other supplements. The enzymes help a lot when you are taking in a lot of fat and protein!