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Re: Getting maximum results with tough work schedule

Postby JohnOregon on Tue May 31, 2011 12:32 am

Make sure you take the hooks off before you scratch your butt. . . .
8-)
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Re: Getting maximum results with tough work schedule

Postby jerry674 on Tue May 31, 2011 3:53 am

Thanks for the tip JohnOregon. :lol:
That is some useful information after being up all night 'working'. ;)

I hit it just right @ the gym this morning after work. A friend of mine had a pair of the Altus hooks and the attendant there loaned us a pair (no name brand that I could find) made VERY similar to the Schiek model I ordered through Amazon. After trying both on shrugs since it was shoulder/trap day I have to say I personally liked the wider flat single hook model better. I just hope I like the Schiek ones as well. I liked the wider webbing and the overall 'feel' of these. The Altus hooks performed ok on my warm-up set, but when I got loaded up for the main event the narrow webbing was a little uncomfortable on my wrist. This will all come down to personal preference of course. My hands are big enough that the altus hooks fit neatly between my fingers without spreading them out too much and you do get more of a feel of control since there is nothing between you and the bar. The Schiek style hooks do not interfere at all with my lift and after a few reps felt natural. Both styles fit the bars just snuggly enough to feel right. Having never used hooks before, (never needed them til 10 weeks on THT), I think I made the right choice for me in the Schiek brand. Of course I will have to evaluate them when they arrive, hopefully by this Thursday.

Hope everybody had an awesome Memorial Day and to all my veteran friends here, THANK YOU for your service.
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Re: Getting maximum results with tough work schedule

Postby jerry674 on Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:29 am

Thanks to both Joh and Johnoregon for the advice about lifting hooks. Been using the Schiek hooks since they arrived and am very impressed. Straight bar curls to shrugs, they really come in handy. I would recommend these to anybody with wrist issues, and also to those moving into the heavier weights. Two weeks into a new cycle and just downloaded THT 4.0. Y'all have a good one! Happy lifting.
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Re: Getting maximum results with tough work schedule

Postby JohnOregon on Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:28 pm

Supposedly there is another muscle next to the bicep that tends to get trained instead of the bicep.
I use the straight bar, but going for a wider grip now that I read this stuff about palms facing up, try to have your pinkies higher than your thumbs. That way you actually hit the bicep.

Here is the actual words from Nelson Montana.
http://www.anonymousbodybuilding.com/Eb ... MPLETE.pdf
ARE YOU WORKING YOUR BICEPS TO THEIR FULLEST?
(You May be Surprised)
There'll be no preface to this article. There isn't any need to discuss the appeal of the bicep
muscle and its importance to one's overall appearance. Everyone already knows that. Instead, let's
get right to the point: Biceps training is probably the most simple form of all bodybuilding
exercise, yet thousands of bodybuilders fail to stimulate bicep growth with ample success. There's
a reason for that. There's also a solution. If you're among those who never seem to get a good
bicep pump and would like to rectify the situation, read on.
You're Not Going To Believe This, But...
Although it's rarely addressed, the standard curl doesn't directly affect the bicep -- at least
that's the case with some people. It all comes down to your anatomical make-up. For an unlucky
bunch, the main contributor is the brachialis muscle, which runs underneath the outer part of the
bicep. That's the muscle most responsible for drawing the hand toward the shoulder. Naturally, as
the resistance is increased, the muscle fibers of the bicep come into play, which is why heavy
curling will increase bicep size. Simple, right? Maybe not. Since everyone's point of insertion is
different, for some, the brachialis may absorb the majority of stress, thus, the biceps function
becomes limited. In other words, the biceps will only receive as much stress as the brachialis
will allow.
More Weight = More Growth. But Where?
The obvious solution of increasing the stress on the biceps would be to simply increase the
weight, but as many of you may have realized, that tactic doesn't always work. Have you ever used
an extremely heavy weight for curls only to wind up with sore forearms the following day? That's
because the additional stress was, once again, handled by the brachialis. They're a very efficient
muscle. Unfortunately, by being so efficient, they rob the biceps of additional growth
stimulation. You may be able to lift more and more weight, but the biceps remain the same size.
Very frustrating.
A New Angle On Things:
If you're an advanced bodybuilder, you may have tried a series of angles in order to better
isolate the bi's. This is a necessary part of anyone's training. We all need to discover how to
hit a muscle with the optimum force and in the case of the biceps that won't budge, the key is to try and eliminate the brachialis as much as possible.
Whatever Works Best --Do The Opposite.
By examining which movements most directly work the brachialis, we can comprehend what not to do.
Hammer curls, for instance, will work the forearms and brachi and, interestingly, are easier than
standard biceps curls. There's no wonder a cambered bar was once referred to as an "EZ" curl bar.
Sure, you can handle more weight -- because it takes the strain off of the bicep! It would then
stand to reason that positioning the wrist in as opposite a direction as possible would take the
stress off of the brachialis and place it more onto the bicep. Therefore, keeping the wrist as
straight up as possible will stress the bicep more directly. In the case with dumbell curls,
keeping the wrist a little outward with the pinky higher than the other fingers is better yet. Of
course, when doing barbell curls, a wide grip with a straight bar will most directly work the
fibers central to the bicep.
Don't Preach.
The preacher curl is a favorite among many bodybuilders but it, too, is more of a brachialis
exercise. Think it builds the lower bicep? Can't happen. The entire bicep is either activated or
not. There is no "lower" bicep. What the preacher bench does is alleviate stress at the top of the
motion making it essentially a "half" curl. So why is it that many champion bodybuilders exalt its
effectiveness? It comes down to anatomy. In a fortunate few, such as the phenomenal Larry Scott,
the brachi will develop under the bicep resulting in a higher "peak." We should all be so lucky.
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Re: Getting maximum results with tough work schedule

Postby LALA on Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:45 pm

@ johnOregon

There is actually 3 heads to the bicep area i will throw up a thread to see what you think of it and for other people who wont be fit to pick it up in this thread ;)
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